In this episode, Jon and Bryan chat with Laura Polkus, Creative Director at YML, about the monster that doesn’t like to quit—Overtime. It’s a hairy, overbearing beast that likes to grab hold and not let go, but with Laura’s help, we learn how to kick free and make peace with it. We talk all things productivity and self-worth while sorting through the finer points of the 40hr vs 30hr work week debate. We also chat about biophilic design, exploring various ways to bring nature into human-made spaces. Now sit back, press play and help us slay Overtime.